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Monday, March 20, 2006

How censorship kills discourse

We have now had a powerful lesson in how easily a little censorship and targetting those who speak out on any issue can kill discourse. Take a look at the PennLive's Harrisburg forum and you will see something remarkable - just one voice echoing the same view on the issue of the right to bear arms. Why? Perhaps because several other views are held by persons who have been banned from the Forum for whatever reason. How many have been blocked? We may never know.

Just as in Orwell's world, the news was altered to suit the needs of those in power, so it is on PennLive's Forums. Milton hits the delete button, and history is re-written. Welcome to 2006

18 Comments:

Blogger GastonStreet said...

I'm blocked again....so now you can add, GastonStreet, Moonmamma, and AbercornSt to the list. At this point I have stopped trying. Being able to post on PennLive just isn't worth the effort to get past Milton. Milton has taken away any REAL discourse, all that's left are the views that agree with him. And really...who cares about Miltons opinions anyway?

March 20, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

Yes - the pattern has finally emerged. For example, TatooJim's post on censorship was removed, but he is able to post again and again on his right to have assault weapons. There is one poor dissented left - who must think there is no one else in central PA who has also read the Constitution.

March 20, 2006  
Blogger Jones1234 said...

I see that AbercornSt can post...but Milty is SOOO gonna yank that down since you called him out!

LOVE IT.

March 20, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

My post was rejected because it "contains inappropriate language." That's the first time I have heard the Constitution referred to that way.

March 20, 2006  
Blogger Jones1234 said...

Yet, somehow fitting for PennLive.

March 20, 2006  
Blogger GastonStreet said...

Yeah, we can post again. So what's up with Milton, his blocks are disappearing. Are there competeing forces at PennLive? Watch your back Milton....

March 20, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

My guess is he is playing again

March 20, 2006  
Blogger GastonStreet said...

If that's the case, it's time to start playing a new game. Let's aggravate Milton! How about a game of tag? Your turn...

March 20, 2006  
Blogger hbggirl said...

hey, gaston -

jones, hbg1 and i have set a date for a meeting - if you are interested in joining us, email hbg1 with your email and she'll give you the details - would love to meet you....

March 20, 2006  
Blogger TattooJim said...

Well I got completely booted from PL as well. I may have contrary opinions from time to time, but I respect everybodies right to their own opinion. The editor in charge of PL is Steve Nevanious (SP) his phone number is 703-3501. I've already called him once (left message) and I'll probably visit him in person Monday.

March 23, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

You go TatooJim!!! I have a call in, too. He called back once, but we are playing phone tag

March 23, 2006  
Blogger Jones1234 said...

Ok, ignore my last two posts asking Jim about temporary or permanent damnation.

I'm dying to know what happens on Monday when you go in there!

Welcome to the world of the banned, Jim!!!!!! Nice to see you again.

March 24, 2006  
Blogger TattooJim said...

Well folks I got ahold of Steve, the editor of PL today. I actually got right thru to him by phone. He said that the people (yes multiple people) that monitor the forums arent even in this state. THat no political affiliation exists and the most used manner of deleting threads comes from a report of abuse by forum users. This corporate mantra went on for a bit until I asked this question. "If my post about censorship was censored out, how can you dispute that undo censorship is occurring?" (crickets chirping) dead silence, then we got into a very focused disscusion, and he actually began to believe something was going on....I demanded and answer why both of my nicknames were deleted (obviuosly tracking ip addresses). He promised to look into the whole censorship issue, and as to why I was booted, and will get back to me Monday. Now the funny part...by the time we were done, he offered me my own blog at pennlive to cover harrisburg city issues. Well I said, its a little early to be playing stinky finger...lets see how you address this censorship issue...then we'll talk.

I'll report back to everybody when I hear from him on Monday...don't worry I'm a juggernaut where this kind of thing is concerned...I will follow this to its end...

March 24, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

Hey, it's too late for that, eh Jim. Thanks for following up - I'm still playing phone tag

March 25, 2006  
Blogger TattooJim said...

See my post in The Word is Getting Out for the end of this story. Also, I asked Steve @ PL who the heck is Milton? He said he has no Milton on his staff and that he thinks its a reference to a charachter in the movie Office Space (he was the dude that finally burned the building down because somebody took his stapler)

March 27, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

Oh, yes, sorry Tattoo - Milton is our nickname for the censor

March 27, 2006  
Blogger hbggirl said...

OMG - that's funny - sorry Jim - I coined Milton and that's exactly where I got it from. I love that movie and this dude MUST be Milton.

March 28, 2006  
Blogger TattooJim said...

Well it is curious hbggirl, that Steve KNEW what I was talking about...I have found him quite accessible..his direct line is 703-3501. Give 'em a call. he's hoping (im sure) his phone will remain quiet....

March 28, 2006  

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