Harrisburg Happening

Thursday, March 23, 2006

The word is getting out

People are finding us. So now it is time to get some good discussions going. Post a topic here, and I will post it as a separate thread for people to discuss. I'll soon be looking into getting real message boards set up - time for some real competition, PennLive!

30 Comments:

Blogger TattooJim said...

Maybe we could use a "Welcome to the blog thread" Let peeps introduce themselves. Give us a chance to meet them up front, rather than deduce their identity within the context of a blog....just thinking, and typing (that'll happen alot)

March 24, 2006  
Blogger Jones1234 said...

Hey Jim...

Were you banned for life or just temporarily? Just curious. Not that there is ANY pattern to what that censor is doing over there...

March 24, 2006  
Blogger hbggirl said...

hey, jim...what did you do that was soooo bad? ;)

PL stinks. it's actually not worth posting there anymore. At all. random stuff is deleted for absolutely NO reason.

March 24, 2006  
Blogger GastonStreet said...

Welcome Tattoojim! Good idea about introducing yourself, but what about those of us whose jobs could be impacted by our sometimes out of the norm, less than moderate, opinions? There are a few folks at City Hall that would NOT have a job if their identities were known....how do we address that concern? By the way, I'm not one of them, I'm a self employed artsy type with concerns about crime in my neighborhood, and just about anything City Hall or government in general does, that impacts my quality of life and living. How about that??

March 24, 2006  
Blogger hbggirl said...

I see both sides of this argument but tend to agree with gaston - there are a lot of people who could be impacted professionally speaking by their opinions (me included).

damn it that I wasn't born rich.

March 24, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

Yes, not everyone will want to reveal themselves - goodless knows I've already taken grief. But then, I'm self-employed too. Only way to go.

March 24, 2006  
Blogger hbggirl said...

P.S. I don't work at City Hall either. But you will know this soon enough.....

March 24, 2006  
Blogger Jones1234 said...

Frankly the only identity I'm interested in is Milty.

And we know he's not gonna step up.

March 24, 2006  
Blogger sasfra said...

Involvement in the local issues is the only way to get Harrisburg awken from the nightmare that have been living for the past 25 years.

Being self employeed has its advantages, and then again, being independent gives one a step up on the crazies in this town. There are quit a few a city hall.

March 25, 2006  
Blogger TattooJim said...

Well it looks like I was banned for life, but even banned at all is just wrong. I registered another nickname "IGotBooted" and posted a message aboutTattooJim being booted and listed Steve the editors phone number, and it only lasted 2 hours. What did I say that got me banned? Well I dont know...I'm opinionated, but respectful. I think the gun ban topic was my downfall. My last post, was in response to a comment that was basically. "who cares if these people were killed they were all just bad guys that wouldn't be missed and that probably deserved it" they also went on to call these killings just "blips" on the radar. Well I gotta admit I went a little south on that one. I pointed out that the Korean grocer that was shot in the head for 20 bucks was not just a blip, and that nobody deserves to die. It was shortly after that that the posts disappeared, and so did I. My other nickname LuckySevere, was also booted, hence, booting by IP tracking is happenening. I registered my other nick "IGotBooted" from another IP, and it was accepted. I can fully appreciate ones desire to be anonymous. I'm quite a public figure, so registering by my name which IS Tattoo Jim, kinda put me out there anyway. Have I gotten flack, not really. I'm sure I'm on some "enemies of Carlotta list" out there, but I'm willing to stand by my opinions. I did get a call back from Steve the editor of PL late friday (same day I called) but was knee deep in a big tribal dragon back piece so I was unavailable.

Well folks, our kids are away this weekend, my lovely wife and I just got home from a great meal. Looks like a cozy night of watching HDTV. If you havent seen a HDTV yet DON'T DO IT!! It'll hit you right in the wallet, you'll simply have to have one..

March 26, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

Tatoo - I don't think it matters what you posted, it is quite random.

March 27, 2006  
Blogger hbggirl said...

That's true - the deletions are random...there are posts calling someone a murderer that are still up which one would think should be taken down...but it's still there.

But posts about a campaign sign that has been hanging on a run down gas station on the corner of Cameron and Herr was removed.

Things that make you go, "HMMMMM....."

March 27, 2006  
Blogger TattooJim said...

Well here's the answer from Steve @ PL. My nicknames were frozen because I complained about the heavy moderation. They were attemping to keep everybody "on topic" Then Steve threw out some fun facts. "The overall number of people being booted are very low when compared to the total registered posters" I could hardly wait for him to finish...."Well Steve" I said "If averages were facts, we'd all be 16 year old chinese boys" "I'm sure if you looked at the ratio of people booted from the hbg forum, to the other forums, you would find a different story" He stopped short of admitting heavy handedness, but I think he got the message to his people to chill out...whatever.... Oh, and I'll be un-booted by 5 tonite..again, whatever. He also said he only got three calls about censorship... well there ya have it...I'm gonna take my dog for a walk...

March 27, 2006  
Blogger hbggirl said...

Thanks for the info...glad you got to talk to him.

Unfortunately, I have a feeling you would have been better off having that conversation with your dog.

:-)

March 27, 2006  
Blogger GastonStreet said...

Jeez, nice of Steve to decide who is "on topic". If that is not censorship I don't know what is! They decide what should be posted and what shouldn't, what is moderate and what isn't? Crap, let's all move to China, where there is more freedom of thought!If I had any doubts about the Patriot News living up to is name, those doubts have certainly been substantiated! Boo Hiss PennLive and the Patriot News!!

March 27, 2006  
Blogger Jones1234 said...

So "on topic" means anything that doesn't critcize PennLive?

Nice.

Real nice.

I love that you gave him the old "Chinese boys" law of averages.

March 27, 2006  
Blogger hbggirl said...

Look - they have to know that what they are doing is wrong. I mean - really.

It's just a matter of calling them out on it in a manner that they can no longer defend for fear of - well - no posts or A LAWSUIT.

Love the Chinese boy thing, too. Bravo.

March 27, 2006  
Blogger Jones1234 said...

I just reread Jim's post.

So they started blocking people for complaining about the deletions. Ok. At least they admitted to that.

BUT WHAT ABOUT THE DELETIONS/BLOCKS BEFORE THAT?

Wait, maybe I should call Jim's dog for the answer. Nevermind.

March 27, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

I say Steve may just be our guy Milton.

March 27, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

For the record. Steve has never responded to my emails and I am still blocked, no matter what screen name or ID I use. It's time to go further up the food chain.

March 27, 2006  
Blogger TattooJim said...

He seems like he knows something is wrong....whatever that is worth....I'm able to sign back on again to PL....but I posted a comment on Wild Bill Cody's hand carved wooden condoms ...sorry I couldnt help myself...something about Jim Beam and a wireless keyboard that I just can't resist...

March 27, 2006  
Blogger hbggirl said...

methinks you may be right

steve=milton

we need to find out who stilton's superior is

just like he was going to find out hbg1's....

March 28, 2006  
Blogger GastonStreet said...

Did any of you attend the City Wide Crime Watch meeting last night? I was there...very interesting. The latest suggestion from the Mayor...sit in on the local District Justice hearings, it seems these repeat offenders are getting off scott free and the Mayor thinks the public playing watch dog would get the DJ's to give stiffer penalties and fines. I didn't know there was a problem till last night, seems the police catch these bad guys and the DJ's repeatedly let them go...like I said it was a very interesting meeting. More meetings to follow.

March 28, 2006  
Blogger GastonStreet said...

Hey Hbg1, got the info on Milton. Keep it coming, this little drama gets more interesting by the minute!

March 28, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

On local district justices and crime watch - back in the day when I was an assistant DA, if a cop went to a DJ with a good case and it was dismissed, then the cop came to me. If my analysis was that there was a case, we would refile. I have sat in on some local cases, and most of the time, it is the cop and the defense that come up with a compromise - can't blame that on the district justice.

March 28, 2006  
Blogger hbggirl said...

hey, gaston - any mention of which DJs are doing this? I would be curious. I know that I personally would be shocked if Solomon was who they were talking about. Not so shocked if one were to say that Stewart were letting peeps off the hook.

March 28, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

Actually, I wouldn't be shocked at Solomon - I know he has at least once been reluctant to allow a domestic violence case to go forward. The victim had to push the DA's office to make it happen.

March 28, 2006  
Blogger Jones1234 said...

It's not just DJ's who let people off.

I'm not so crazy about Judge Hoover.

Anyone got any dirt on this cat?

March 28, 2006  
Blogger GastonStreet said...

No one was mentioned by name, just "he" so that could be any of them with the exception of Barbara Pianka. Your guess is as good as mine! Whom ever it is, he has the Mayor hot under the collar! The Mayor just repeatly stressed the importance of the DJ's job as first defense against these repeat criminals.

March 28, 2006  
Blogger Anniken Davenport, Esquire said...

All the DJ can do if it is more than a minor offense is decide whether there is probable cause to hold someone over for trial. If there is not (and probable cause is generally defined as more likely than not that the defendant committed the crime) enough evidence, the case is dismissed. There is the matter of bail, but generally, a person has the right under the constitution to bail in most circumstances. There is also the matter of not enough space for everyone at the county jail. Then, there is the practice of plea bargaining at the next step. We simply don't have the man(person)power to try every case and hold everyone. Bottom line - it is a guessing game who is most dangerous if allowed on the street.

March 28, 2006  

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